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The Revolution Continues's avatar

I'd say the FIRST thing we must "degrow" is the war machine. This webinar (link below) really drives the point home. The US military is the 4th largest polluter on the planet. War causes more ecological damage than individuals. Degrow the military, save us from nuking ourselves, and then we all have a chance at helping clean up the messes we've made.

.Degrowing the Military While Preserving Jobs (webinar) https://youtu.be/MHnQd_F7GRg?si=mo_zoLlUXPVTQ46Z

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I find it impressive how coherently you argue here, without falling into the obvious trap. To blame overpopulation for our problems has long been the domain of ecofascistm. But the relevant questions you raise here show how the line has started to shift. Fascists have now verged towards birtherism, longtermism or whateverism, however else they call their cooky, speculative theories. Which has resulted in men like Musk approaching women at parties with the "pick up"-line "do you want me to inseminate you?" or that russian telegram dude bragging that he has fathered over 100 children. Longtermism is a perverted form of doomsday cult, that screams apres nous le deluge, but also dressing it as a somehow noble philosophical stance. In reality the purpose it serves is nothing else than to relieve these rich assholes from the actual responsibilities they would have, to address the existing social and economic problems that they are to blame for. But instead they take the "long view", settling mars etc pp., in order to justify it to themselves how filthy rich they have become.

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